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Post subject: Fast Action Football penalty/fumble questions  PostPosted: Apr 03, 2015 - 11:42 AM



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I purchased Fast Action Football and after reading the rules, and previous forum posts, I "think" I know for the most part how to handle the penalty/fumble checks. I've listed some questions/procedures below and would like to ask if someone familiar with the rules would answer the questions and comment on the procedures I've listed, correcting things as needed.

Thanks.


Kickoffs

Do you check for Penalty ? (no Fumble check)


Kickoff Return

Draw FAC to identify returner.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble.
If Penalty, complete kickoff return, then check Penalty.


Punts

Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble. (only Road Team checked for Fumble)
If Penalty, apply immediately, do not run play.


Punt Returns

Draw FAC to identify returner.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble. (only Road Team checked for Fumble)
If Penalty, complete punt return, then check Penalty.

Punt return penalties on the Offense are not underlined, how is the spot of foul determined ?


Onside Kicks

Draw FAC, check for Penalty/Fumble.


Running Play

Draw FAC to determine Team Chart to use.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble.
If Penalty, apply immediately, do not run play.


Pass Play

Draw FAC to determine Team Chart to use.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble.
If Penalty, apply immediately, do not run play.
 
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Post subject: Re: Fast Action Football penalty/fumble questions  PostPosted: Apr 03, 2015 - 05:48 PM
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Jeff Nicholson wrote:
I purchased Fast Action Football and after reading the rules, and previous forum posts, I "think" I know for the most part how to handle the penalty/fumble checks. I've listed some questions/procedures below and would like to ask if someone familiar with the rules would answer the questions and comment on the procedures I've listed, correcting things as needed.

Thanks.


Kickoffs

Do you check for Penalty ? (no Fumble check)


Kickoff Return

Draw FAC to identify returner.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble.
If Penalty, complete kickoff return, then check Penalty.


Punts

Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble. (only Road Team checked for Fumble)
If Penalty, apply immediately, do not run play.


Punt Returns

Draw FAC to identify returner.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble. (only Road Team checked for Fumble)
If Penalty, complete punt return, then check Penalty.

Punt return penalties on the Offense are not underlined, how is the spot of foul determined ?


Onside Kicks

Draw FAC, check for Penalty/Fumble.


Running Play

Draw FAC to determine Team Chart to use.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble.
If Penalty, apply immediately, do not run play.


Pass Play

Draw FAC to determine Team Chart to use.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble.
If Penalty, apply immediately, do not run play.


If no one chimes in, before tomorrow morning, I'll tackle this then.
 
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Post subject: Re: Fast Action Football penalty/fumble questions  PostPosted: Apr 05, 2015 - 10:17 AM



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Downey Games wrote:
If no one chimes in, before tomorrow morning, I'll tackle this then.

I have to admit that I didn't catch the tackle reference the first time I read this. <G>

Good one !
 
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Post subject: Re: Fast Action Football penalty/fumble questions  PostPosted: Apr 06, 2015 - 12:19 PM
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Jeff Nicholson wrote:
Downey Games wrote:
If no one chimes in, before tomorrow morning, I'll tackle this then.

I have to admit that I didn't catch the tackle reference the first time I read this. <G>

Good one !


Sorry, things have been crazy. I did not forget about this. Just did not have a chance to get to it. Response is coming.
 
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Post subject: Re: Fast Action Football penalty/fumble questions  PostPosted: Apr 06, 2015 - 12:28 PM
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Jeff Nicholson wrote:
I purchased Fast Action Football and after reading the rules, and previous forum posts, I "think" I know for the most part how to handle the penalty/fumble checks. I've listed some questions/procedures below and would like to ask if someone familiar with the rules would answer the questions and comment on the procedures I've listed, correcting things as needed.

Thanks.


Kickoffs

Do you check for Penalty ? (no Fumble check)


Yes, you check for a penalty

Jeff Nicholson wrote:

Kickoff Return

Draw FAC to identify returner.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble.
If Penalty, complete kickoff return, then check Penalty.


Punts

Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble. (only Road Team checked for Fumble)
If Penalty, apply immediately, do not run play.


Punt Returns

Draw FAC to identify returner.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble. (only Road Team checked for Fumble)
If Penalty, complete punt return, then check Penalty.

Punt return penalties on the Offense are not underlined, how is the spot of foul determined ?


Onside Kicks

Draw FAC, check for Penalty/Fumble.


Running Play

Draw FAC to determine Team Chart to use.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble.
If Penalty, apply immediately, do not run play.


Pass Play

Draw FAC to determine Team Chart to use.
Draw FAC to check for Penalty/Fumble.
If Penalty, apply immediately, do not run play.


All of the procedures above, you have outlined correctly.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: Fast Action Football penalty/fumble questions  PostPosted: Apr 06, 2015 - 03:33 PM



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Thank you !

One question that you might have missed. How are punt return penalties determined on the offense, which I take to be the returning team ? KO Return penalties on the offense indicate either end of return or spot of foul, but the Punt Return penalties on the offense do not have this indication.

I'd like to double check about penalties being checked on the actual KO. The rules for KOs do not indicate to check for a penalty, but the rules do state to check for a penalty on a Punt. Penalties for KOs and KO Returns are grouped together making me think that the only check is on the Return, with the Returning team being the offense and the Kicking team being the defense ?

As an example, the Kickoff & Returns penalty grouping has a KOOB penalty on the Defense. This would seem to indicate that the Kicking team is considered the defense on both KOs and KO Returns, making the return team always the offense. If so, then the return team has a chance to be penalized on the return at two points, once on the KO and again on the KO Return. Likewise, the kicking team has a chance to be penalized for KOOB at two points, once on the KO and again on the KO Return. Is this what the rules intend ?
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: Fast Action Football penalty/fumble questions  PostPosted: Apr 10, 2015 - 11:49 AM



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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Fast Action Football penalty/fumble questions  PostPosted: Apr 13, 2015 - 11:09 AM
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Jeff Nicholson wrote:
Thank you !

One question that you might have missed. How are punt return penalties determined on the offense, which I take to be the returning team ? KO Return penalties on the offense indicate either end of return or spot of foul, but the Punt Return penalties on the offense do not have this indication.


Penalty is marked off from the end of the return
Jeff Nicholson wrote:

I'd like to double check about penalties being checked on the actual KO. The rules for KOs do not indicate to check for a penalty, but the rules do state to check for a penalty on a Punt. Penalties for KOs and KO Returns are grouped together making me think that the only check is on the Return, with the Returning team being the offense and the Kicking team being the defense ?


On punts, there can be a penalty during (or before the punt) and during the return, which is there are separate designations. During the kick-off, you check during the return, as the penalty is all encompassing. So, you check for the penalty on the return, which is a clarification I didn't make previously.
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Fast Action Football penalty/fumble question  PostPosted: Apr 14, 2015 - 08:48 PM



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