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Post subject: UQ Wrestling
 Posted: Jun 06, 2005 - 07:01 PM
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Just wondering if there will someday be a FAST wrestling
game to complement UQ Wrestling, much like FAST Boxing complements
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Post subject: RE: UQ Wrestling
Posted: Jun 06, 2005 - 07:46 PM
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lobo wrote:
Just wondering if there will someday be a FAST wrestling
game to complement UQ Wrestling, much like FAST Boxing complements
UQ Boxing.
Not exactly. But, close. In Bruce Kish's upcomming Press Box Magazine, will be the details on Pro Wrasslin Mayhem. It's currently in the final testing phases and will be released later this month.
Pro Wrasslin Mayhem is not a quick results game though it plays quickly. It's a full-featured wrestling simulation that concentrates on in-ring action. Where Ultra Quick Wrestling concentrates on storylines. So, while the games and their engines are dramatically different, both games can and do complement one another. |
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Post subject: RE: UQ Wrestling
Posted: Jun 24, 2005 - 10:16 PM
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I promised myself I wouldn't quibble about the ratings, but I am curious about the
ratings for the Brooklin Brawler & Dusty Rhodes. Lombardi is rated higher than big
Dust. Hmmmm, I know Dusty was in decline in the nineties, but Lombardi was never a headliner
in the WWE. He did reach mid-card status with his feud with the Red Rooster, but that's it.
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Post subject: Re: RE: UQ Wrestling
Posted: Jun 24, 2005 - 11:25 PM
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lobo wrote:
I promised myself I wouldn't quibble about the ratings, but I am curious about the
ratings for the Brooklin Brawler & Dusty Rhodes. Lombardi is rated higher than big
Dust. Hmmmm, I know Dusty was in decline in the nineties, but Lombardi was never a headliner
in the WWE. He did reach mid-card status with his feud with the Red Rooster, but that's it.
Was he ever a headliner in an indie fed ? I've only seen him in McMahonland.
LOL...I sense some frustration.  Actually, I'm glad you asked about this. Dusty fought exactly one match in 1991, the Royal Rumble tag match that featured Dusty and "The natural" Dustin against Dibiase and Virgil. This is the match where Virgil started the face turn. Dibiase ordered him to bring him the belt. He dropped it at Ted's feet, then stood up and socked him with it.
The match was Dusty's last in the WWF, and he looked like he didn't want to be there. He was beaten and battered and looked absolutely horrible. Leading into the match, in late 1990, Dusty did nothing but lay flat on his back. In reality, the 1015 rating is generous, due to his past reputation. But, truly, he was nothing but a "name" jobber at this point.
Dusty did sign with WCW shortly after leaving WWF, but he did not wrestle there in 1991.
As for Lombardi, he was still in the Heenan family, and while he wasn't getting the push he got in the fued with Terry Taylor, he actually won 7 matches in 1991. He had wins over Dusty Wolfe (jobber), Koko B Ware (not a jobber at this point), Snuka (who Vince had job to everyone on his way out), Jim Powers, Joe Cruz, Big Bully Busick and Tugboat. He also had 4 tag-team wins.
Lombardi was also wrestling in Northern Indiana and Michigan for the new WWA as Abe Schwartz, where he was a decent heel.
Now Brawler is only rated 1200, which refelcts his status at the time. He was basically the top heel jobber along with Mike Sharpe.
If I were to rate these two over their career there is no question that Dusty would be among the top tier. But, in the early nineties, he was a glorfied jobber dressed in black and yellow polka dots.
I probably should have just left him out of the set. But, since he appeared in a major PPV, I thought I'd stick him in there.
I said on another forum somewhere that I realize people think I'm just making up numbers with these sets. But, I have actually put a lot of research into this set, and the next few that I plan to release. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: UQ Wrestling
Posted: Jun 25, 2005 - 02:02 AM
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jdowneyadmin wrote:
I said on another forum somewhere that I realize people think I'm just making up numbers with these sets. But, I have actually put a lot of research into this set, and the next few that I plan to release.
I can certainly vouch for fhe fact that Mr. Downey's games are thoroughly researched. I haven't had a chance to get into the wrestling game too much yet, but I have extensively played Ultra Quick Boxing and found that it yields very accurate results. I posted on another forum somewhere that it became obvious to me very quickly that there was alot of thought and research involved in the ratings of the fighters in that game. As a pretty avid student of the rich history of professional boxing, I must say that I have been very pleased with his boxer ratings.
I purchased Ultra Quick Wrestling when it was released without a second thought because I was confident that I could expect the same accuracy and addictive gaming experience with that game as well. So far I have not been disappointed.
I understand that Mr. Downey doesn't need me or anyone else to take his back in regards to the accuracy of his games , but I just wanted to share my thoughts and experiences.
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Post subject: UQ Wrestling
Posted: Jun 25, 2005 - 12:11 PM
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I appreciate the comments.
I truely enjoy debates about the ratings though. And hope to see some more, as at least you know my rationale behind the ratings. Besides, as I've said many times, I'm prone to mistakes like anyone else. A good example is the WWG cards I posted the other day. I made some errors on those cards that I plan to correct today or tomorrow.
When creating a game with subjective ratings, these discussions are bound to happen anyway. With both games, I've tried to remove subjectivity from the equation. With boxing, this is a lot easier. For one the record keeping is much better. For another, you don't see the same fighters facing each other 10-15 times during a year. Believe it or not, with wrestling finding actual results is much easier for years past. Once the kayfabe period ended, there really wasn't much of an effort to track the sport other than Title Histories. The old wrestling mags used to have monthly reports on results listed by date and city. It's hard to find that data past the late 90's.
I also knew that ratings would be much more in question by using a season format. But, that format really appealed to me, as I've never seen it done in the past. I think it provides a nice "flavor" to the game as you can view wrestlers at various stages of their career. Using a season format almost "forces" you to use lesser known mid-carders and curtain jerkers that would easily be over looked in an All-Star or All-Time Great format.
I love the rating discussions though. Keep 'em coming, I won't duck 'em...LOL |
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Post subject: RE: UQ Wrestling
Posted: Jun 25, 2005 - 04:29 PM
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Thanks Jeff for your response. I wasn't aware of his victories over Snuka, Busick
& Tugboat. I can the logic behind the ratings of Lombardi & Dusty. Lombardi
has been around a long time (I think he's still with the WWE in some capacity).
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Posted: Jun 26, 2005 - 12:41 AM
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I definitely agree that discussion and debate over ratings is a good thing...and enjoyable. It wasn't my intention in my previouis post to come across like I was saying that Jeff's ratings are beyond debate and should be accepted without question. I really just wanted to share my opinion that there appears to be sound methodology behind the creation of the ratings.
I've been a fan of the Title Bout series going all the way back to the board game days and am helping to beta test the upcoming release of Title Bout Championship Boxing 2. Most of the fighters in that game were rated by Jim Trunzo, who is widely accepted in the community forum over there as a very knowledgable boxing historian. Yet there is constant debate over the ratings of some of the fighters and it is very constructive. Mr. Trunzo has acknowledged that he is capable of making mistakes in rating fighters just like everyone else. And the fact that Mr. Downey acknowledges the same thing is actually a very good thing. I would be a bit concerned if he didn't. 
Sorry for the long post.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2005 - 08:03 AM
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Posted: Jun 26, 2005 - 08:23 AM
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Anonymous wrote:
Any news on when Pro Wrasslin Mayhem will be released?
Originally it was going to be next week. But, there are kind of a glut of recently released wrestling games right now. I may decide to hold off a bit. I'm just not sure if the market is saturated right now. |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2005 - 07:56 PM
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Guys my regions has held it 1st 4 cards, the action is hot. which made me wonder bout the ratings. how would i keep track of em besides messing up a nice card set....... WORDPAD!,
so it only about 30 mins but I made a overall rating chart. to be updated every card, I had to move some guys to the other side cause i messed up during the draft . but , it looks greart now , tomm, { hopefully I'll have 3 tag matches of 10 matches on card 5 . then i'll list the tag teams That might go for the title in the WWW........:)... if u wanna see my overall ratings sheet I'll send via email. my region and choice of wrestlers may surprize u !
Mikey
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